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Jim Cornette Interview (part 2)
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Wrestling Perspective: Does (Vince McMahon) subsidize
Jim Cornette: I do not know that he does. I wouldn't
think that he does. I wouldn't think there'd be any reason for it. But
you never know what kind of deal Paul E. is in. But it seems to me that
every time they enter into a business relationship, nobody's actually ever
happy. Paul E.'s always uhh, like the evil empire. What the fuck is that
all about? Jesus Christ. Why is he going to compete with Vince McMahon?
For God sakes, get a fucking clue.
Wrestling Perspective: Why does Vince do business
Jim Cornette: I think Vince has had a lot of people,
and Russo was a big ECW fan because Russo's only feedback to tell him how
great he is and what a genius he is is some people on the Internet and
naturally, they like ECW. That's why Russo was always like, "Bring the
Blue Meanie in." I like the Blue Meanie as a person. But, my God, this
is the epitome of what's wrong with the wrestling business. God bless him.
He's in horrible shape. He's painted blue. If you turn on the channel for
the first time, you're like, "What the fuck is that? What kind of athlete
is that? What kind of sport is this? What's going on here?" This is a clown
show. That's Russo's thing. So he was big on an ECW relationship. Paul
E.'s so crooked and lies so much. He was on the WWF payroll for a couple
of years and swore to his boys that he wasn't. That's why all of his guys
leave him, by the way, because he lies to them all the time. If I'm working
for somebody, I'd rather have them tell the truth and pay me no money,
but be honest to me and honest about the situation than have them pay me
a lot of money and be a lying prick that you can't trust to turn your back
Wrestling Perspective: Did you ever like him?
Jim Cornette: Oh, we were friends who talked on
the phone and ride around in his car when I would visit New York in our
younger days. I got him booked with Jim Crockett. Dusty (Rhodes) came to
me and Bobby (Eaton) and said, "Dennis Condrey fucked you and I won't book
him again unless you guys say so." The whole Original Midnight deal I had
presented to Dusty. It was the thing where he came in, he called me on
the phone in the studio and blah, blah, blah. The timing was my idea. I
presented it to Dusty. I said, "We want to do this. We don't have anybody
to work with. We can draw some money with this." So he gave them a job.
At that point, Paul E., of course, now he wants to do his little political
shit and be the only manager and I hated him at the time. Eventually, I
was gone. I left. He'd call me every once in a while like the time I quit.
He'd call and Paul E.'s so crooked. He can't contemplate that somebody
actually does something for any legitimate reason. It's always a scam.
I quit and left and Paul E. called me, "You've got them right where you
want them. They'll give you anything to come back." "I'm not going to come
back, Paul." "Yeah, okay, right, yeah, sure, you've got them right where
you want them." "Paul, I don't want to come back. I don't want to work
for them." "They'll give you anything. They'll double your salary." "I
don't want double the money, Paul. I'm not going to come back for double
the money. If they offer it to me, I won't take it." "Okay, sure." I said,
"Wait and fucking see. I'm not coming back." I guess he still thinks I'm
holding out. He couldn't contemplate that I just didn't want to work for
those fucking people. It's always a scam, always a con, whatever. He got
fired for falsifying the receipts and the fucking plane ticket thing and
then he'd come back.
Wrestling Perspective: He claimed he was framed
Jim Cornette: Oh, bullshit. He sat in the locker
room and told me one time how he figured out how to refund those plane
tickets to his own credit card. He's a crook. Paul E. Dangerously's a crook.
Everybody knows that he lies, he lies, he lies, he lies, Jesus. So anyway
as far as why the WWF has ever had a relationship with him (it's) because
he's another Russo. He's an Internet self-promoter and he convinced them
he was more valuable than he was. Their shit, I like some of the guys in
ECW, but the ECW style did not do anything for Raw when the ECW guys came
and appeared on it. While Paul E. for two years personally was on Vince's
payroll because Vince felt bad about taking some of his talent and gave
him a check, he would lie to his boys and tell them that he wasn't on the
payroll. He agreed to be a color commentator for the WWF and then lied
to his boys and said he didn't agree and didn't show up at the taping and
nobody could get a hold of him from the WWF office. Two weeks later, he
calls with some bogus story of why he couldn't be in contact and tell them
he wasn't coming for two fucking weeks like he'd been stolen by gypsies
or something. He got in a situation where the WWF had been paying him for
so long and then finally asked him to do something for his money. He couldn't
figure out a way to say no. At the same time, he couldn't admit to his
boys that he was working for the WWF because he had the evil-empire thing
going so he just crawled in a hole until he could worm his way out of it.
Wrestling Perspective: What was the theory behind
having him on the payroll? What was he supposed to be doing?
Jim Cornette: Vince had felt bad because Vince
had signed up several pieces of talent and was using them all at the same
time so Vince was trying to make it right with him. Since he had hurt his
business, he gave him a little check. He had him on retainer. I guess he
was thinking at some point we will be able to use this young man and utilize
his talents or whatever the fuck.
Wrestling Perspective:: That's kind of hard to
believe that Vince would feel that way when he raided numerous companies
over the years.
Jim Cornette: Yeah, but let me tell you something,
if you added up the money that Vince pays out in favor jobs and to help
people or to support people or to make up for taking talent or something
that he feels should be made right, my God, you could live for 30 years.
Wrestling Perspective:: Does this mean Verne Gagne's
on the payroll?
Jim Cornette: He may be one of the only ones that
ain't. Vince McMahon is to the point where when Scott Hall and Kevin Nash
left by faxing a notice after they promised they were staying and blah,
blah, blah and that whole story's been well documented, he could have paid
them anything he wanted to for that last Wrestlemania. He not only gave
them an excellent pay-off, he gave more at least to one of them, he gave
them more than the guy he worked with as a bonus because he wanted to say,
"They can't truthfully say I fucked them on the way out." But he's been
nice to some people to the point where it makes me want to puke. I wouldn't
have done it. They didn't deserve it. But at any rate, the thing with Paul
E., every time they have entered into some kind of relationship, it's short-lived
and Paul E. does nothing but bad-mouth everybody publicly and I don't get
the concept of that. He ain't gonna get bigger than Vince. He ain't gonna
whip Vince. Why not work together with Vince? Why not acknowledge some
kind of public relationship? Because it would damage his perception as
being the bad boy. Well, fuck that shit. Anybody who can't understand that
hey, this guy has a multi-billion-dollar company and meanwhile, I've got
what I've got, of course I want him on my side. I'm going to bring this
talent down. He can't bring WWF talent to work for him because none of
the WWF guys will do that bullshit and risk their lives and their careers.
Wrestling Perspective:: He's so concerned with
the fans who will chant, "You sold out" at people who are going to get
big-money deals and when they come back, it's like all is forgiven and
all is forgotten. Also, who was hated more than Dusty Rhodes when that
company started? The fans don't know what to do.
Jim Cornette: It's the Ole Anderson principle.
Ole Anderson told me one time, this was one of the greatest things anybody
ever told me, he said, "Cornette, at one time, I thought you were a dumb
fuck. But so many other dumb fucks have come along who are worse than you
that it's moved you up the ladder without you doing anything." Same principle.
They hated Dusty 10 years ago, but now, the situation is so stale they
love seeing his fucking bubbly, fat ass back again. So anyway, I don't
have any clue what the WWF-ECW relationship is today nor do I really care.
I'd rather stay out of all of this. I don't want to hear about things.
I don't even listen to most gossip except when it relates to somebody I
really dislike just because I'm here doing this. I watch enough wrestling
between here and Memphis and our house shows, I don't hardly watch anything
on Monday night anymore from anybody or Thursday night or Saturday morning
or whenever the hell it's on. Don't care.
Cornette has much more to say and the only
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